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Students
see ESL classes as a step to success.
Even
after ESL students start taking subject matter
classes with native speakers, they often still
appreciate the special learning environment offered
in ESL classes where all students are learning
English. The following students see ESL classes as
a critical step towards their eventual success in
mainstream college classes with native
speakers.
Koji
Yamaguchi, a U.S. high school graduate, originally
from Japan
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Sarah
Sarkissian
I suggest the most important thing that
English learners need is to have contact
with English and get used to English. Then
begin to learn speaking, listening and
grammar.
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I
have been living in U.S about 4 years. When I came
to U.S. I could not speak English entirely. I think
I learned English by conversation, by conversation,
talking to native or others who spoke English very
well. I took 2 years of ESL classes in high school
year in the U.S. I think that was not enough to
learn English, but I learned a lot of things from
ESL classes. I feel I have many problems with my
grammar which is why I wanted to take ESL classes
at Orange Coast College.
I
think most of the English that I learned is from
hearing and speaking. I just copy a sentence, which
is said by someone. Then I think about how to use
it or when I can use that sentence. I think English
is very difficult and I have to learn it from two
ways, which are speaking and listening and grammar
study.
When
I began to take this ESL class in OCC, I found out
that I am very weak at grammar study and I really
need practice in it. However, if I can advise
something for new English learners, I think people
should learn speaking and grammar together because
they might learn about relation between speaking
and grammar.
From
my experience, a lot of college ESL students
learned English grammar in their own country before
coming to the college in the U.S. I think it is a
very good way to learn English, because I did not
learn English that much in my own country; and that
is why my grammar study still has a lot of
problems.
I
remember when I came to U.S and began to learn
about English grammar. I really could not
understand what I was learning about, but now I am
taking ESL classes in OCC and I feel I can really
understand some or most of it. I think that is
because I learned a lot of things from English and
American culture by living in U.S for a long time.
I
think it was really important because relation
between language and culture is very important, so
I suggest the most important thing that English
learners need is to have a contact with English and
get used to English. Then begin to learn speaking,
listening and grammar. Finally I feel more
comfortable learning English now than before
because I have gotten used to English more than
before.
Jun
Suk Yoon, an international student from
Korea
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Photo:
Sarah
Sarkissian
Most ESL teachers are so kind because they
understand how speaking the second
language is difficult. ESL class is very
important for non-ESL class. Learning in
ESL helps students to be better in non-ESL
class.
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There
are some differences between ESL class and non-ESL
class. As an international student, I prefer ESL
class because it is easy to understand what a
professor is saying, and ask for repetition.
Moreover, I feel comfortable because every student
cannot speak English very well like native
speakers.
In
this semester, I am taking one ESL class, and three
non-ESL classes: Math 125, Film 100, and History
100. Whenever I attend the history class, I always
try to take a note and understand my
professors lecture. However, I just
understand 50% of his lecture because he speaks
English very fast and uses some difficult
vocabulary.
On
the other hand, whenever I attend ESL class, I feel
so comfortable. Here are some reasons. First, my
ESL teacher speaks English more slowly and exactly
than my non-ESL teacher. Second, whenever I cannot
understand my ESL professors lecture, I can
ask him many times. Most ESL teachers are so kind
because they understand how speaking the second
language is difficult. ESL class is very important
for non-ESL class. Learning in ESL helps students
to be better in non-ESL class.
Tri
Dao, a student originally from
Vietnam
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Sarah
Sarkissian
I feel more comfortable in the ESL
classes. I can easily ask my teachers what
I dont know, and people wont
judge me if I say something wrong. I mean
they dont laugh at me even if I
pronounce the words wrong or dont
use the right grammar.
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Taking
the non-ESL classes is more difficult than taking
the ESL classes. I consider myself as an ESL
student, but I have taken some non-ESL classes. I
have some ideas about this experience. In the
non-ESL classes, I have to study with people who
have lived in the U.S. for a long time, even born
here. They are so comfortable with English. In
lectures, the instructors talk so fast, and use
many complicated words.
Thats
the reason for me to not understand something. I am
kind of shy to ask them about what I dont
understand because the other students might laugh
at me. The more I dont know, the more I get
lost.
However
I feel more comfortable in the ESL classes. I can
easily ask my teachers what I dont know, and
people wont judge me if I say something
wrong. I mean they dont laugh at me even if I
pronounce the words wrong or dont use the
right grammar. I think the reason for that may be
we all are in the same level, so we can easily know
and understand about each others
problems.
On
the other hand, there are some good points for me
to be in the non-ESL classes. Even though these
classes are hard, I still love to take them because
Ive learned much from there. I have learned
many new words and the way to speak in daily
conservation because there are many friends who are
really good in English. The good thing is it makes
me feel that I am not like a foreign person while I
am participating in these classes.
Haruhiko
Shimizu, an international student from
Japan
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Sarah
Sarkissian
In my case, I do not want to take class
whose students are mixed. However, I do
not mind because I have taken other
classes which separated students.
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I
cannot say if it is a good idea or not for the
college to mix students. I think that depends on
every student's personality and the student's other
ESL classes. The purpose of ESL study cannot be
completed in one classroom. Language education has
to be completed in long term. So, if every ESL
student is taking many kinds of classes, the
students can get their own purpose more easily.
In
my case, I do not want to take class whose students
are mixed. However, I do not mind because I have
taken other classes which separated students. I
know the disadvantage of separate classes. That is
why I do not complain about mixed classes. In my
opinion, ESL students ought to take many kinds of
classes. It will take a long time to complete our
studying.
Dong
Kwak, a student originally from
Korea
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Photo:
Sarah
Sarkissian
I think international students and people
who recently immigrated need some
preparation to take non-ESL classes, and
if theyre not sure about it, they
should take ESL class first.
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The
negative things about being people who have
recently immigrated or international students to
study English is that, there are cultural
differences.
In
most Asian countries, students have to wait to ask
questions when the teacher is done with his lecture
or talk. Students cannot interrupt when the teacher
is lecturing but in the United States or other
western countries, students can interrupt during
the lecture freely.
I
was kind of confused about that when I recently
immigrated. I thought I had to wait to ask
questions after the teacher finished with the
lecture but even if I wanted to ask questions, I
was worried, if I would say something wrong or
sound funny.
In
non-ESL classes, I was nervous if the teacher asked
me a question. There was lot of group activities in
classes. That can be positive thing to some people
but not to me. In my country, teachers dont
give students group work, maybe one or two times. I
was used to individual work so I wasnt really
comfortable with group work in the class.
If
a person who cant speak English well comes to
United States and studies in the non-ESL classes,
there would be lot of problems. I know a friend who
came from foreign country, and he couldnt
speak and understand English very well. However, he
didnt take ESL class; he just took non-ESL
classes. Result was bad. He couldnt
understand the lecture and the assignments, he got
bad grades, and because of bad grades he got
stressed. A few months later I heard he went back
to his country. I think if he took ESL class first
then took non-ESL classes, maybe he could be
successful with his studies now.
I
think international students and people who
recently immigrated need some preparation to take
non-ESL classes, and if theyre not sure about
it, they should take ESL class first.
An Kieu,
originally from
Vietnam
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Photo:
Sarah
Sarkissian
Students who attend in ESL classes
dont feel embarrassed when they have
speaking problems because there are
students who are at the same level as
them. Their goal is to learn English;
there s no judgment against
them.
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Being
a foreign student in the United States, it is
difficult to catch up with the students who live in
the United States for long time. It is interesting
for recently immigrated or international students
to study English in the same classes like ESL
classes.
In
addition, there are some disadvantages for ESL
student to be in other classes that are non-ESL
classes. It is hard for them to communicate with
people.
In
the United States, there are ESL classes in high
schools and colleges to help students who study
English as a second language. The teachers who
teach in ESL classes are friendly, and they
understand students speaking problems. They
help the students to get acquainted with the new
language.
Students
attend in ESL classes dont feel embarrassed
when they have speaking problems because there are
students who are at the same level as them. Their
goal is to learn English; there s no judgment
against them.
Besides
ESL classes, students may have taken other classes
that are non-ESL classes. There are some
disadvantages for them to get along with the
teachers and the teaching style. When foreign
students attend non- ESL classes, they feel
depressed to participate in class activities. Their
problem is understanding academic subjects.
Sometimes they cant get what the teacher
talks about. There might be some differences
between their country and the way in the US. They
also feel embarrassed when they dont
understand the subject and they get
lost.
Although
there are some problems, there is still good points
for students who take non-ESL classes. They can
learn more English in speaking and writing skill.
They have to try more to learn their foreign
language. And they can get what they want by trying
hard.
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